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* [http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392 systemd assimilates udev]
 
* [http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392 systemd assimilates udev]
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html systemd takes over logging] (and as if that wasn't bad enough, it uses a binary format)
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html systemd takes over logging] (and as if that wasn't bad enough, it uses a binary format)
* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-networkd-IP-Forward Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls]
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* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-networkd-IP-Forward systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls]
* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-Gummiboot-Boot-Loader Gummiboot UEFI Boot Loader To Be Added To Systemd]
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* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-Gummiboot-Boot-Loader Gummiboot UEFI boot loader to be added to systemd]
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-resolved.service.html DNS cache] --- [https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html systemd-resolved]
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-resolved.service.html DNS cache] --- [https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html systemd-resolved]
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.service.html web server]
 
* [http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.service.html web server]
* [https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 Systemd developer asks tmux to add systemd specific code]
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* [https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 systemd developer asks tmux to add systemd specific code]
 
* An init system that requires even on a server a library for rendering QR codes: Post in [https://www.heise.de/forum/iX/News-Kommentare/Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-for-SAP-Solutions/Neulich-auf-einem-RedHat-Server/posting-31123843/show/ Heise Forum] and reference in [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/172163.html Fedora]
 
* An init system that requires even on a server a library for rendering QR codes: Post in [https://www.heise.de/forum/iX/News-Kommentare/Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-for-SAP-Solutions/Neulich-auf-einem-RedHat-Server/posting-31123843/show/ Heise Forum] and reference in [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/172163.html Fedora]
* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Mount Systemd assimilates mount]<br>
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* [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Mount systemd assimilates mount]<br>
 
[[File:Systemd_anigif.gif]]<br><br>[[File:Systemd_scopecreep_chart.png]]<br><br>
 
[[File:Systemd_anigif.gif]]<br><br>[[File:Systemd_scopecreep_chart.png]]<br><br>
   

Revision as of 20:03, 27 March 2018

Contents


Links

The new order.jpg

Breaking promises and immaturity

"After udev is merged into the systemd tree you can still build it for usage outside of systemd systems, and we will support these builds officially. In fact, we will be supporting this for a long time"

"...this will effectively also mean that we will not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."

Linux (kernel) coup attempt: "kdbus support is no longer compile-time optional ... We encourage all downstream distributions to begin testing kdbus by adding it to the kernel images in the development distributions, and leaving kdbus support in systemd enabled." comment on this on LKML

"The kdbuswreck"

"kdbus now out-of-tree"

"kdbus dropped in favor of BUS1"


Stability Promises

To quote from the systemd stability promise:

"Starting with version 26 (the first version released with Fedora 15) we promise to keep a number of them stable and compatible for the future."

One of their promises is for the export format:

"Entry metadata that is not actually a field is serialized like it was a field, but beginning with two underscores. "

This is not true for version 44 of systemd for example.

Scope creep

Systemd anigif.gif

Systemd scopecreep chart.png

Absurd Bugs and Responses

Conceptional problems

Debunking the myth of unit files being significantly shorter than scripts used by all other init systems: A side-by-side look at run scripts and service units

Scope Creep Leads to Vulnerabilities

Poor design

Ignorance of fundamental operating system concepts

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