Arguments against systemd

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* [https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447 journal ip anonymization] - It's very difficult to use systemd/journal on a privacy aware system or infrastructure.
 
* [https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2447 journal ip anonymization] - It's very difficult to use systemd/journal on a privacy aware system or infrastructure.
 
* [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 systemd kill background processes after user logs out] - Poettering's answer: [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XW7V5A3RAWYCACU2ZMPA27ARRLIZUI37/ In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout.]
 
* [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 systemd kill background processes after user logs out] - Poettering's answer: [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XW7V5A3RAWYCACU2ZMPA27ARRLIZUI37/ In my view it was actually quite strange of UNIX that it by default let arbitrary user code stay around unrestricted after logout.]
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* [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776171 Unable to shutdown]
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* [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61191 journald eats up CPU]
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* [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64116 Corrupted binary logs]
   
 
== Scope Creep Leads to Vulnerabilities ==
 
== Scope Creep Leads to Vulnerabilities ==

Revision as of 11:21, 21 June 2016

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Breaking promises and immaturity

"After udev is merged into the systemd tree you can still build it for usage outside of systemd systems, and we will support these builds officially. In fact, we will be supporting this for a long time"

"...this will effectively also mean that we will not support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at that point. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call."

Linux (kernel) coup attempt: "kdbus support is no longer compile-time optional ... We encourage all downstream distributions to begin testing kdbus by adding it to the kernel images in the development distributions, and leaving kdbus support in systemd enabled." comment on this on LKML

Stability Promises

To quote from the systemd stability promise:

"Starting with version 26 (the first version released with Fedora 15) we promise to keep a number of them stable and compatible for the future."

One of their promises is for the export format:

"Entry metadata that is not actually a field is serialized like it was a field, but beginning with two underscores. "

This is not true for version 44 of systemd for example.

Scope creep

Absurd Bugs and Responses

Scope Creep Leads to Vulnerabilities

Poor design

continue after logging out. For example, you can no longer start a screen or tmux session, log out, and expect to come back to it."

Myths

Debunking the myth of unit files being significantly shorter than scripts used by all other init systems: A side-by-side look at run scripts and service units

Ignorance of fundamental operating system concepts

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